Where does the sensu go while wearing hakama?

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Where does the sensu go when you wear hakama?  I guess I am also questioning the fukusa now too.  My memory is that the fukusa goes in the hakama bands and the sensu still goes in the obi.  My question is mainly for Urasenke but other schools ways are welcome too!

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In Urasenke the fukusa should be places just underneath the end point of the kaishi. This is a location quite a bit more in the front than the usual placement of the sensu.

Forgetting about hakama for a second. You place the fukusa from the bottom, and the sensu from the top. This makes all the difference when you put on a hakama. Since the hakama covers up the bottom part of the obi, but not the top edge. So no matter where you want to put your sensu you can allways access the obi from the top. However when placing the fukusa from the bottom, you can only access the obi bottom in a very narrow area on each side. Since this is the wrong place for the fukusa this is not done, and the fukusa is instead tucked into the hakama straps.

Just to reiterate the placement:

  • Fukusa is placed in front of the thigh just underneath the end of the kaishi. When using hakama it is tucked into the hakama straps
  • Sensu is places on the side of the body, and is alway put into the obi.

 

 

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I believe that you are correct, and that the sensu goes in the obi, as usual; since the sensu is tucked into the top of the obi there is no difficulty in doing so . The fukusa must be tucked into the hakama straps as there is no easy way to tuck it into your obi when wearing hakama.

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I am a bit confused. Yes, you do tuck the sensu into the obi while you are out in the roji, but in the tea room itself, it is mostly sitting on the floor behind you except for some formal bows. Regardless, it is the symbol of the guest and a substitute for a sword. Incidentally, if you are interested in earlier Japanese clothing, the obi tie was just moving around to the back ca. 1600. Earlier on, everything was tied in front. I believe that obi ties moved to the back in response to fat obi.

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